NOTICE: I am not a gunsmith, I am a amateur
enthusiast only. I am relating information
that was provided to me by others as well
as a few mods I have done on my own guns,
under the supervision of an experienced gunsmith.
What you do with your firearms is your responsibility.
I would like you to further note that alterations
will likely nullify any manufacturers warranty
and may change or eliminate standard safety
features. Please do not handle firearms while
under the influence of medication, alcohol
or in extreme emotional situations. Check
that your gun is unloaded before doing any
tuning or cleaning and never point a gun
(loaded or unloaded) toward another person.
Remember.. SAFETY FIRST AND ALWAYS. If you
are not sure what you are doing or you don't
have the proper tools.. go to a qualified
gunsmith. Undoubtedly, you have a lot of
money invested in your firearms and trust
me, it is worth the extra few dollars to
get it done right. Mistakes can be costly
in financial terms as well as the risk of
causing death or serious injury. I've never
seen a gun explode.. but, from what I hear,
it is not a pretty sight.
All standard disclaimers apply.. this information
is provided solely for entertainment purposes.
Enough said!
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For the Vaqueros: An action job, including new springs and
having the cylinder chambers chaffered. A
free spin pawl installed, Shortened cylinder
pin, And, depending on the size of your hand
installing a Bisley type hammer. Also, depending
on the size of your hand installing a set
of "Eagle Grip" gunfighter grips.
Have the pistol adjusted for point of impact.
Not that it will do anything for performance,
but my gunsmith can bead blast the frame
and remove all the writing from the barrel.
Giving the gun a two-tone effect (the barrel
and cylinder remain shiny while the frame
has a matte finish). He can also jewel the
hammer and trigger. [Click to see picture of a completed gun] For starters, however, I recommend something
cheap and easy. Remove the grips, Polish
the hammer strut-if it has any rough spots
or burrs; Cut a single loop off of the mainspring
and disconnect one leg of the trigger return
spring. Reassemble and shoot the gun. You
will want to repeat the mainspring lightening
until the gun feels good, but don't over
do it. Go to cutting only a half turn off
at a time after the initial cut (and buy
a spare spring first). If you go too far,
you can stretch the spring, heat it with
a torch until it glows and drop it in oil
to quench it, but personally, I would buy
a spare spring. Shoot the guns a bunch. Stoeger Shotgun: Action job, Chambers honed, Safety disconnected,
Recoil pad and stock fitted to length, If
you need more recoil reduction, installing
a dead-mule. Hope these suggestions help! If you don't have a good gunsmith in your
area, try mine. Neal Spruill aka "Hogleg Smith" at Southern Machine
Works here in the Atlanta area (770) 503-7572. |
FROM THE SASSwire (uncredited):
"I have a nickel-plated 12 gauge IGA coach
gun. I spent a
lot of time polishing the chambers, starting
with 400 grit wet/dry emery paper,
and working down to fine synthetic steel
wool. I cut a slot lengthwise in a 3/8
dowel to hold the polishing medium and chucked
the dowel in my power drill.
Also use a polishing wheel on my Dremel tool
to take all the sharp edges off
the chamber mouths and extractors to reduce
hang-ups when loading. Polished
everywhere metal rubs metal. Be careful shortening
the actuating lever spring.
I overdid mine a tad (my motto if some is
good, more is better has got me in a
lot of trouble over the years), and the action
would break open when the gun
was fired. Go slow and check it. I also deactivated
the automatic safety by
cutting off the rod. If you take the stock
off and watch while you open and
close the action, it will be obvious what
you need to do. It has really
smoothed up over the last three years of
shooting maybe 100 rounds a month.
The largest problem with a new Stoeger is
opening the action. I bought a Lady's Uplander
for my daughter when she was 11. She couldn't
open it. It would leave the imprint of the
latch checkering on my thumb when I applied
the proper amount of thumb. Not good. I removed
the butt-stock and found the coil spring
that the lever compresses. After removing
the spring, I burned about three coils of
with the aforementioned grinder. The only
hitch was making sure that the rod around
which the spring is installed is turned so
that the angle that meets the safety is turned
right. Otherwise there won't be enough movement
in the latch to release the barrels. Take
your time and test the pressure with each
coil you remove. You'll be alright.
If your hulls are sticking in the chambers, you might try chucking a cleaning
rod w/rag-covered brush into an electric drill and polishing the chambers using
a fine abrasive and water. This can be messy, but it helps. Who says you need
ejectors?
Aside from that, the Stoegers are pretty
good right out of the box. Good luck."
BLACKIE'S STOEGER TIPS
First of all, just to be safe, I am not encouraging
you to disconnect the automatic safety, or
alter your gun so that it will be in any
way,shape or form, unsafe to operate. Although
I have been around guns for a long time,
I am not a gun smith, I am a amateur enthusiast
only. I am relating what I did to my own
gun and what you do to yours is your responsibility.
I would like you to further note that these
alterations (besides using the gun in CAS)
will nullify your warranty (whatever that
is). 'Nuf said.
Tools
1 medium to heavy, long shanked screwdriver,
for buttstock.
1 regular screw driver for butt plate
1 needlenosed pliers
1 small punch
1 small prick punch
1 small hammer
1 drill bit set
1 pencil and a piece of paper
Some emery paper or fine (220+) sand paper,
I have a polishing wheel w/ jewelers rouge
also..
1 bench grinder, if you don't have one I'm
sure you'll find someone who will.
If you have difficulty removing the retainer
plug for the firing pin and spring, you will
need three 5/64th drill bits and a piece
(about 5 inch minimum would be sufficient)
flat bar stock, i.e. flat piece of steel,
3/4 to 1" wide will work fine. Of course
if you don't want to turn them drill bits
by hand have a drill handy.
O.K. remove the barrel and furniture, you
should have only the important piece left.
I'm looking at it from the left side, at
the top, the release lever would have to
be pushed away to disengage the locking bar.
For clarification the locking bar is that
piece that, if you look down from the top
while moving the release back and forth,
is also moving back and forth just in front
of the breach face. It locks the barrel in
place. (nomenclature strictly my own can't
read the manual, too small ) Back to side
view, if you look close at the release lever
you will note that it has a shaft that rotates
and by a cam system, pushes the back of the
locking bar against a pin with a spring on
it. This pin in turn pushes against the safety
mechanism and this is how, when you open
the action, the safety is set. The back part
of that pin is what I ground off. It was
restricting the throw of the release lever
and not disengaging the locking bar enough
to allow the gun to be opened easily. Mark
the pin about three sixteenths of an inch
BEHIND the part of the frame that retains
the spring. What I did was to, using the
needlenosed pliers, grab that pin at the
tapered end where it meets the locking bar,
before the spring, and used the side of the
frame as a fulcrum to compress the spring
and remove the rod, be careful not to scratch
the edge. I then ground the pin down to the
mark. Doing this allows for more free throw
of the release lever allowing the locking
bar to completely disengage itself from the
lug that locks the action. When this pin
is ground it will not engage the safety when
the gun is opened, it will however, still
work manually. One other thing I did here
was to push the locking bar rearward to allow
me to work the release lever back and forth
while lifting upwards until it was removed
from the frame. I then polished the shaft
just to slick it up a little. I also cut
two coils from the spring before replacing
all the parts. The firing pins have a nasty
habit of sticking. The smith at Stoeger told
me this was from dry firing but my gun had
problems from new. He also told me, and this
makes sense, that the gun could fire when
you slam the breach closed with a pin that
sticks out. This is scary to think about,
I think we need to keep a close eye on these
guns. The next thing he told me was to remove
the firing pin and run a drill bit down the
hole in the plug that the pin sticks through.
Make sure you use a bit that is snug only.
The pin can be removed from the breech side
by using a punch to lightly tap in one of
the three holes surrounding the pin. These
are standard threads so remove by going counterclockwise.
The reason I explain this is because mine
was tight as a cob and would not move. After
using all the suggestions from the wire I
contacted the smith at Stoeger to first,
find out if it was reverse threads and second
to buy the tool to remove this plug with
the three holes over the pin. Guess what
he told me, Use two 5/64th inch drill bits
in the holes and twist with a screw driver,
yep, high tech. THERE IS NO TOOL! Well if
this doesn't work for you, as it didn't work
for me, then we go to the next step. Take
a piece of paper and a pencil and push it
over the firing pin, then rub the pencil
over the holes to get a tracing. Place the
paper over the flat stock near the end, get
close, prick punch the centers of the holes,
this will line you up and keep the bits from
wandering because your going to drill them
through with the 5/64th bits. wiggle the
bits in the holes a bit after you've drilled
through. Place all of the bits about halfway
through the stock and then put the back ends
of the bits into the holes in the plug and
tap lightly with the hammer until you are
as tight as you can get it down over the
holes. If you can't get to within a 1/2"
of the breach face, remove one of the bits,
place back in the drill, and ream the holes
out a little, you can also go about 1/8"
inch deeper but be careful not to go too
deep. You can also enlarge the hole in the
flat stock by wiggling the bit in it a little
more vigorously, but I would do this one
step at a time. Repeat the process with the
bits in the flat stock and holes and tapping
again. Nobody I have communicated with has
indicated that they have had as much trouble
removing this plug as I have and this worked
for me, if it doesn't work for you I'd see
a gun smith. The wife can now, with one hand,
push the release and with a snap of the wrist
open the gun ( yes, an uncocked gun ). Sorry
for making this so detailed but I wanted
to make myself plain enough for our pards
who have a limited gun or mechanical background.
The nomenclature I used wasn't from the owners
manual, can's read it with my bifocals and
magnifying glass so don't attempt to find
the descriptions there. I tried to explain
it the best I could and I still may not have
clarified this enough, someone always has
a question but I only believe in dumb answers
not dumb questions so feel free if you think
I might be of more help.
NOTE; If, after you reassemble the firing
pins and they protrude, you have the firing
pin springs in backwards. ~ Blacky